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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2006, 05:34:28 PM »

I knew it.  You stay away from my car.  You... you and and your shotgun.
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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2006, 01:48:16 AM »

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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2006, 02:22:33 AM »

just kiddin darktengu Smiley



They got my cylinder #4 misfire to go away, and my oxygen heater sensor to come back, but I still have 4/8 monitors failing as follows:


catalyst monitor   (buy new cat?)
EV evaporative system monitor (?)
oxygen sensor monitor (new rear o2 sensor? i already replaced front)
E  Exhaust Gas Recirculation monitor (clean or new egr valve?)

Are my solutions in parenthisis right?

Thanks a bunch guys and any help on what to do about the EV evaporative system would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2006, 02:26:54 AM »

Yes on all your guesses, at least that's what I would do.  Except for your EGR.  EGRs are a pain.  They are no good for your engine or horsepower.  It's an emissions thing.  All it does is put HOT exhaust gases back into your intake.  If you don't have to worry about emissions (like me  Grin ) I'd just leave that one.  As for your EVAP let me do some research on that one.
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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2006, 03:20:15 AM »

New solution.  Take your positive and negative battery terminals and...




switch them.

Problem solved.  Have a nice day.

ok Nah, just kidding.  Glad to hear that things are starting to go the right direction.  Unfortunatly DEQ will pitch a fit about the EGR thing so you will most likely have to get it fixed.  That or move to Insesticada.   Grin
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« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2006, 04:24:10 AM »

ok wel as far as your evap sensor goes there could be so many problems worng.....are you a tech kinda guy...i will try to explain it to you if you arent.....i'm not very good at explaining so someone mayb correct me but your computer till only run the evap "test" when all the conditions are right.....by condidtions i mean engine  rpms engine temp things like that but they all have to be within a certain range and whatnot.....well the problem with that is it is very hard to narrow down the problems when you cant run the test...right?.....ok as far as solutions the evap is connected into so many different causes.....i know probably the EASIEST to fix would be next time you go to the gas pump make sure you turn you gas cap ALL THE WAY UNTIL IT CLICKS AT LEAST 3 TIMES......the check engine light WILL come on if you donnt......hopefully that is all your probelm.....other problems could be a leak somewhere in the system.....me personally i have seen the fuel bypass valve to rgulate how much pressure the injectors are getting (so much pressure it dumps and recirculates to the gas tank) i have seen them stick open and stick closed both before also the charcoal canister might be plugged etc etc etc....the are so hard to pinpoint....i know a guy that has taken a 2 year course on the stupid evap system and still has barely skimmed the surface......but i hope that helps you and if it doesnt hit me up a PM or on AIM soemtime i will try to describe a little bit more in detail....
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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2006, 04:35:26 AM »

i was thinking also that with the o2 sensor and that catalyist moniter....( i am not quite sure what they mean by that b/c i have always heard of the furthest o2 senor after the cat being the one that moniters that however am not positive)......i have seem these caps you can get that just go right over the sensor wires that emulate normal readings on your o2 sensors....they seem to work pretty well especially with aftermarket exhaust where some people  Wink might take tht cat off to get more HP they are farely inexpensive and are very easy to install.....hope that helps
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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2006, 11:56:03 AM »

misfire is back Sad
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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2006, 05:56:52 PM »

misfire is back Sad

Angry DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMNĀ  Angry
This is down right going to cause me to force death on people.
Alright things that you have checked/replaced

Plugs
Plug wires
Coilpack
O2 Sensors (both)
CPS
Fuel Injector
Timing

Did I miss anything?  If I listed something that hasn't been replaced/checked that would be the next one to do.
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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2006, 08:15:55 PM »

After reviewing this post I feel that this is the only solution.

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=33

Just drop this in your gas tank and all your problems will be solved.

ok but really, this is starting to get annoying.
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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2006, 08:54:01 PM »

I still need to replace the rear o2 sensor and add a new catalytic converter to that list.


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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2006, 09:00:20 PM »

I thought timing was not able to be checked or changed on these 420a's?

I will tell you this, it sounds/feels like its timed great, and feels as fast leaning towards faster than the v6 auto venge I used to have.

The new cat converter made it run ALOT better but my catalytic monitor did not come back on (maybe because the rear o2 still needs replacing?)

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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2006, 12:00:29 AM »

The timing belt can slip, which means it has to be fixed.  There's no simple way to change the timing.  But as for the o2, I guess get that replaced and we'll see what happens.
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« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2006, 12:22:22 AM »

When I lost my timing components at 70mph  Angry   (not a good scenario there) the shop that put my stuff back together had it off half a tooth and it seemed to have plenty of power but idled really really wierd.  Kinda made it sound like it had an RV cam or something.  Anyway, it is possible to have it skip a tooth or be off a bit if it isn't put together just right.


For the record, when you have your timing belt done, replace everything.  My idler pulleys for the timing belt froze up and grenaded, taking out everything related to timing components on my Venge.  Fortunatly I felt it lurch and popped it out of gear and coasted and didn't bend any valves.
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Re: cyl #4 misfire....?
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2006, 12:59:01 AM »

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