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"coalition government"-your thoughts?
« on: December 16, 2008, 03:49:05 PM »

just curious what other canadians think about this?.I see it as a slap in the face and a kick in the groin because its been a whole 2 months or so since our last election Roll Eyes.Millions down the drain-what are they thinking Huh.There was a group of people in Stratford showing their support for the coalition government with a demonstration downtown-people were driving past yelling Traitor!! Cheesy
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Re: "coalition government"-your thoughts?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 07:05:02 PM »

stupidest idea EVER..

The bloc isn't part of the "coalition" anyway.. and the NDP and the libs don't have enough seats together to form government.. it's a NON starter.. from one minority to a smaller minority??  doesn't make sense..  If there is a vote of non-confidence in January.. it's back to the polls.. and you thought the last election had dismal turnout..

The liberal party might as well be bankrupt..  Stephen Dion still hasn't payed back his liberal leadership debt, and continues to file for extensions from elections canada, the ndp well.. what can I say nice about comrade jack..  nothing.. except he looks like the video professor.  oh and Ignatief might as well be foreigner.. from 1978 until 2005 he didn't even bother to live here..  He's a career polition who hasn't held a real job in his life, his parents were diplomats..

and how many liberals know that Ignatieff actually supported bush in his invasion of Iraq?
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Ignatieff was a prominent supporter of the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.[14] Ignatieff says that the United States had inadvertently established "an empire lite, a global hegemony whose grace notes are free markets, human rights and democracy, enforced by the most awesome military power the world has ever known." The burden of that empire obliged the United States to expend itself unseating Iraqi president Saddam Hussein in the interests of international security and human rights. Ignatieff initially accepted the position of the George W. Bush administration: that containment through sanctions and threats would not prevent Hussein from selling weapons of mass destruction to international terrorists. Like many others, he had been persuaded that those weapons were still being developed in Iraq.[15] Moreover, according to Ignatieff, "what Saddam Hussein had done to the Kurds and the Shia" in Iraq was sufficient justification for the invasion.
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kinda runs against standard liberal thought on the issue.



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Re: "coalition government"-your thoughts?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2008, 04:07:08 AM »


elections again next month

Harper spat in the face of quebecers when they mentioned that they don't need quebec vote to win the elections
and now he just realised that he need quebec to stay in power

the Bloc Quebecois is now the key player in ottawa !

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Re: "coalition government"-your thoughts?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2008, 07:40:38 PM »

I'm not sure how I feel about it.

I was all for it initially, mainly because it was a move against Harper and I'm pissed at him for calling the election sooner than he said he would.  (Not that I ever liked/voted for him anyway, but at least he used to be a guy who did what he said he would do.)  With the realization that the NDP and Liberals had to throw in their hat with the separatists to make the coalition work I've since been kind of against it, and certainly backing off a bit to let cooler heads prevail seems to be showing some progress.

In general the separatists annoy me... not because they want to separate (well, that does bug me some) but because they have no aspirations anywhere outside of Quebec; effectively making their sole purpose (since they'll never have a majority and aren't in it to win) to dilute the vote, thereby f'ing the rest of us over and making crap like this far more likely to happen.  If there were separatists in the party outside of Quebec, I could respect them a lot more.

On the other hand, the separatists are the elected representatives of a large number of my fellow Canadians, and do represent their hopes and ideals, and the coalition would give them the voice they'll never have as a permanent minority.  Given that a coalition government is legal (and despite Harper's desperate pleas of dictatorship, 62% of us were for not-Harper) it might be interesting to see how this works out.  At least for the eighteen months for which the Bloc pledged their coalition support, which is a longer period of stability than we're ever going to see otherwise.  I really don't want another vote, as the results will be no more conclusive than the last vote that we should never have had.

In the end I suppose I'm nothing but a typical Canadian.  Too wishy washy and uninformed to take a real stand on the matter, but hey, at least I voted...  and for not-Harper at that.
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