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Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« on: September 16, 2008, 04:31:02 PM »

A couple months ago I did a head gasket job on a 95 Avenger 2.0 DOHC engine. Everything was fine and it had perfect 165PSI on all 4 cylinders.

A couple days ago I noticed some kind of smoke coming out of the exhaust, its hard to tell whether its oil, coolant or just steam.

So I did a compression test again and on the 1st and 4th cylinder the compression was 20 PSI lower then the 2 in the centre.

So will re-torquing the head bolts fix this? Or will it make it worse?

I used a MLS head gasket and I re-used the old bolts.
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2008, 04:58:04 PM »

Re-use of the old bolts is probably the problem.  Tongue

Always use new bolts. It's cheap insurance.
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2008, 10:37:42 PM »

I reused the old bolts because I didn't want to remove both the camshafts and then have to set the timing again.

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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2008, 11:13:24 PM »

you cannot reuse the head bolts
They are torque to yield so when you torque them the first time they stretch thus making them unusable a second time because they will be longer.
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2008, 12:59:43 AM »

I assume the head is probably warped as well being you never actually completely removed the head?
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2008, 01:58:43 AM »

The head was removed to change the head gasket.
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2008, 05:08:45 PM »

did you have the head checked by any means other than just looking at it? all it takes is a little warpage and it's off to the machine shop or the parts store for a new one
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 05:36:19 PM »

How did you correctly retorque the bolts without having the camshaft removed?  I couldn't even get a socket on mine because the cams were in the way.
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2008, 11:50:31 PM »

No I didn't check it for warpage.

I torqued the bolts to what was listed in the Haynes manual. I managed to get a socket in there without taking away the cams.
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 03:10:23 AM »

No I didn't check it for warpage.

I torqued the bolts to what was listed in the Haynes manual. I managed to get a socket in there without taking away the cams.


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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 03:43:53 AM »

Haynes and Chilton both suck.

Factory repair manuals FTW!
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 08:09:41 AM »

Haynes and Chilton both suck.

Factory repair manuals FTW!

Find us a supplier that doesn't want over $50 per set and then we'll talk. lol
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 01:34:58 PM »

lazy bastard  Grin

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Thanks  Grin
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Re: Do I need to re-torque my head bolts?
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2008, 06:13:43 AM »

So is there any possible easy way to fix this or do I have to take everything apart again?

Is it possible to change the bolts without removing half the engine pretty much?
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