Just about to start a 6g72/5-speed swap with a pretty good idea of how to tackle this project, except for one thing... does anyone know if any stock axles can be used with the eclipse 5-speed tranny (or custom axles). I know there has to be length and spline issues there but i'm not sure if anyone has this figured out yet. Any input would be helpful before i try to figure this out myself. Thanks
the eclipse 5 speed will not clear the avenger frame you will need intensive frame work to make it fit you will need to make your own engine mount you will need custom axles
and the most important part is: what magic trick will you use to make your engine run without a crank sensor ?
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do a unique engine swap or die trying bow to the torque meister , the 2.4L prophet
As far as the crank sensor goes, talk to Sroufe7. Or contact DisturbingMotorsports.com. Either way, you're NOT getting around the sensor.
Trust alain in this. if he says you must first push your car off a cliff before it can be modded, he's right. that was just an example of how much you can trust him though. don't really push your car off a cliff.
yeah i know that the avenger v6 crank sensor gets its signal from the driveplate in the trans and the eclipse runs off the engine flywheel but i figured since these engines have the same stroke i could duplicate the signal that the 6g73 makes using a plate mounted to the crank pulley with the same notches in it that denote cyl #1 TDC and so on, and relocate the crank sensor outside the trans using a bracket, the ecu would never know the difference and the engine would truly be turned the way it should be
i'm gonna be working on it all this month if i have any problems i'll probably be right back here, or i'll give disturbing motorsports a call like you suggested...i called them once before when i ordered mounts and they were very friendly and helpful
yeah i know that the avenger v6 crank sensor gets its signal from the driveplate in the trans and the eclipse runs off the engine flywheel but i figured since these engines have the same stroke i could duplicate the signal that the 6g73 makes using a plate mounted to the crank pulley with the same notches in it that denote cyl #1 TDC and so on, and relocate the crank sensor outside the trans using a bracket, the ecu would never know the difference and the engine would truly be turned the way it should be
i'm gonna be working on it all this month if i have any problems i'll probably be right back here, or i'll give disturbing motorsports a call like you suggested...i called them once before when i ordered mounts and they were very friendly and helpful
The V6's get the signal from the FLEXPLATE. The Eclipse gets it's signal from the cogged crankshaft timing belt pulley. And they are totally different signals.
And sorry, but we will not be selling the trigger wheel outside our shop. So there is no point in asking.
it shouldnt matter which signal the 3.0 used to put out as long as the avenger ecu gets the one its looking for, and also that its actually where the pistons are of course
i wont be using the ckp sensor from the 3.0, ill be using the one from the 2.5 along with a plate with the same pattern as the flexplate. The ecu should not be able to tell that the 2.5 has even been replaced
i wont be using the ckp sensor from the 3.0, ill be using the one from the 2.5 along with a plate with the same pattern as the flexplate. The ecu should not be able to tell that the 2.5 has even been replaced
Are you getting one made? Already have one made? Who is doing the work?
i think its very selfish of distubing motorsports to not sell the crank trigger wheel besides with their own swap. i mean u guys could sell it expensive so u could make good $$ off it just the part so people like me who are mechanics could do the swap themselves in their garage and just pay a good amount for the crank trigger. but thats ok u want people to drive all the way to your shop and pay way too much for the swap when some people could do it themselves. i can understand u guys wanting to make a lot of $$ but i bet u will be kickin yourself because u could make just as much if not more by selling the crank trigger kits. Just a thought i know u guys are a great company who does great work i just dont understand why u cant make bank on the crank trigger kits by selling them for and expensive price
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95 avenger es. 2.5v6 port matched upper and lower intakes, custom CAI, all 3 cats deleted, sythetic oil, sythetic atf4 fluid and tranny cooler 98 Monte Carlo z34 l67 topswap with xpcam, CAI, headers, custom exhaust, ported supercharger, 3.25 mps, custom tune 13.86 @99mph
Why would you assume it has anything to do with making money? Much less ALOT of money? Prices haven't even been set yet, and if you would look into the things we DO have pricing on (3.0 swaps/turbo setups) you would see that we barely make any money at all in the broad scheme of things.
The sensor has to be mounted at EXACTLY the right place, or the trigger wheel won't work. There are still alot of kinks to be worked out - and quite frankly, since we have the R&D into it - we can do what we want with it... including shelving the project completely and not selling it at all, if we so chose.
"Selfish"? no. Prepared to cover my own ass by guaranteeing the install is done CORRECTLY, yes....
Sorry you don't understand that... and sorry you don't understand that not everyone is out to make a "ton of money"
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I know a few cars and owners that ... ah nevermind it won't happen anyway 
