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Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« on: January 14, 2008, 12:13:54 AM »

Hi everyone, this is my first post. I have a 96 Sebring lxi, I've been trying to find a front header pipe, to no avail. Not even the local part stores have it. Ive called over 30 parts dealers in the Tri-state area and nobody has it. Can I use a header pipe from a 96 Avenger?
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2008, 01:11:38 AM »

yup,direct bolt up
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2008, 01:52:14 AM »

Thanks for help, you don't know how nerve wrecking it has been in the past few weeks.
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2008, 02:12:34 AM »

car-parts.com can search junkyards for you ....
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2008, 04:05:51 AM »

I've tried car-parts.com but it does not have header pipes in the part list. I tried speedy car parts and they have one for the 2.0. Will that fit on the V6?
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2008, 05:36:05 AM »

that wont fit, you need the exhaust manifold that connects directly to the block right? those are very hard to find, If i had the time I wouldave been able to get u hooked up, but im busy six days a week
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2008, 09:49:27 PM »

Search for ones with the 2.5 engine in stock ,then call and ASK for the header price
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2008, 02:11:09 AM »

I read about something called a flex pipe. Is this the same thing?
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2008, 02:23:28 AM »

Flex pipe is a stranded metal part that allows the exhaust to expand/contract ...it's in the downpipe that joins the two header pipes
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2008, 01:48:39 AM »

if you mix and match the downpipe and manifolds they won't fit.

The flanges are rotated for different years.
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 04:01:29 AM »

Will a flex pipe from a 98 sebring fit on a 96?
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2008, 04:08:49 AM »

flex pipes are pry the same.

its the downpipes that are different.

those years i do not think will work.
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2008, 09:45:00 PM »

How about one from a 97? a salvage parts store in my are has one.
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 09:56:02 PM »

I can't say for sure.

If you are interested in a performance one...I sell them for $210 shipped within the US. 

These fit all years since the flanges swivel.   
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Re: Avenger Header pipe on a Sebring?
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2008, 09:40:12 AM »

Ok. simply because everyone needs to learn this eventually, i'm going to hold a small, short class.

Part 1
Engines come in different flavors cylinder-wise.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 etc.

I've never seen or heard of an L7 [Inline=L] but if anyone does know of and can show, please speak up. Anyways, moving on.

We'll just concentrate on our cars.

I've only seen 4cyl's come in 2 variations: Inline, and Boxer. Inline is denoted by 'L' before the # of cylinders. Hence MY Avenger has an L4 engine with the engine code '420A DOHC'. A boxer engine has an 'H' configuration. But talk to the porsche boys about those.
6 Cylinder engines I've seen in 2 configurations also: 'V' and Inline. You already know what Inline is if you've been paying attention... JBI, please stop throwing paper balls at Nykon. He'll throw an engine block back at you if you're not careful. Now, 'V6's are called such because the cylinders create a 'V' shape that splits the cylinders into 2 seperate equal numbered halves; one on each side of the block.

Part 2
Each cylinder requires an exhaust port as well as an intake port. These 2 different ports are located at the top of the cylinder via an Exhaust Valve and an Intake Valve. there are very few engines [if any that i know of] that require 2 intake manifolds, so there will always be 1 intake manifold. On an engine with the 'V' shape configuration [basically any engine higher than a 5 cylinder] there will be an intake manifold sitting on top of the engine, between the two sets of cylinders. This manifold will service both sides of the engine.
The Exhaust Manifold however, has to be placed on the OUTSIDE of the block. Since there is no way to use 1 manifold for all the exhaust ports, 2 manifolds are used. With these 2 exhaust manifolds, there will be a left and right side or front and back, depending on the vehicle. But there will always be 2 exhaust manifolds.

Figure: 4 cylinder engine


Figure: 6 cylinder engine [NOT the one in the avenger, but for this it will do]



The reason why the V6 won't fit is because it has 3 exhaust ports per exhaust manifold. Why did I not say that to begin with? Simple: Simply saying it won't fit is one thing. But if I can teach you truly WHY it won't fit, then, I have accomplished something by teaching you something you need to know [if you didn't already that is]. And if not you, then someone else that hasn't been taught.

And for a little bonus if you paid attention to all of this



Hope this was educational for you.

-Shiano
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