yeah steve knight has been making these since the 70 's . i think it looks terraible, the engine bay all clutter up with all that charge pipe. imagine trying to work on that mess. and then the trunk that wiring looks like a invention for disaster. why not do the real deal and put a disco potato in there instead of wasting the time cluttering up you're for a electric supercharger that dosen't make much power to begin with. Pugsley
What's funny, is that even though you typed Steve, in my mind I said Thomas Knight!! I'd still like to see someone spend the money on one of the ESC's that you see advertised on tv, not ebay. hell, if i had the extra money, i'd do it just to lay the demon to rest.
the ESC shouldnt be compared to a turbo, compare it to nitrous. the ESCs ussually push 1-4 boost, at most. which is nowhere near a turbo, but it equals about the same amount of o2 down the pipe as nitrous(cause thats all nitrous does [no2] during combustion it strips off the nitrogen and you have extra o2), and short term use is going to be about as long as nitrous, and as long as your alternator is good and/or you have a second battery wired in for it, you will get more life out of an ESC than a bottle of nitrous AND the ESC is ussally cheaper for the kit
so ESC= cheaper to start with, no refills(unless you run it too long and drain your battery), and about the same power. and it tends to be easier on your engine. and its much easier to bolt-on.
i was looking at them a while back, wanted to keep N/A but didnt want nitrous, and this naturally aspirated when its off, and better than nitrous. and its only like 100-200$ where a cheap nitrous system is like 500$ and getting the bottle filled is pretty expensive too.
What's funny, is that even though you typed Steve, in my mind I said Thomas Knight!! I'd still like to see someone spend the money on one of the ESC's that you see advertised on tv, not ebay. hell, if i had the extra money, i'd do it just to lay the demon to rest.
Already been done by at least three magazines... bought the bilge blower and installed ...
i was looking at them a while back, wanted to keep N/A but didnt want nitrous, and this naturally aspirated when its off, and better than nitrous. and its only like 100-200$ where a cheap nitrous system is like 500$ and getting the bottle filled is pretty expensive too.
That one shown was over $2000 years ago the $100/$200 are scams and do not work
i was looking at them a while back, wanted to keep N/A but didnt want nitrous, and this naturally aspirated when its off, and better than nitrous. and its only like 100-200$ where a cheap nitrous system is like 500$ and getting the bottle filled is pretty expensive too.
That one shown was over $2000 years ago the $100/$200 are scams and do not work
speaking from experience? because i've heard of the 100-200$ working, one guy said it was about like getting a small shot of nitrous; another said it was barely noticeable but what do you expect from a direct bolt on, but it worked; and i've heard that it was a scam, so i don't know who to believe ya know? i figured if nothing else i would end up being the guinea pig and try it out, and tell all you how it went. i mean i wasnt expecting much out of 200$ bolt on, so if it gets 2psi of boost i figure it worked.
Like I said before read up on it .. The one pictured at the top is the ONLY one that works.... The Echargers in the $100/$200 range do not blow enough and are normally bige blowers from boats... They don't move enough air ...I've Removed the blower from my dads boats and tried it ...no difference infact it ran worse as the motor/impeller blocking the open intake... I've even seen guys rig up leaf blowers that move 10 times more air not get a signifigant boost...
ima go strap a leaf blower under my hood, jk. but thats basically all a turbocharger is, or a supercharger is, or an ESC, just shoving more air in, so why is everyone saying that the ESC is bogus? i mean i can go to home depot and get a leaf blower for less than 200$ easy, get a inverter and run it under my hood. so again i ask why are the cheap ESC's considered junk? cause the honda got 10hp and the sonoma got 15hp. im just asking whats the differnce between a leaf blower and a ESC? sure its going to drain your battery, but thats kind of a moot point considering the "only one that works" the guy has 3 batteries in the trunk.
the only thing i can think of is the extra draw from the alternator trying to charge the battery while it is being used, but i can set it up so that it doesn't charge while im using so thats not problem. just mount a battery in the trunk and control when the alternator charges it, get a charge gauge etc... and how can this NOT work.
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