What is the proper order for bleeding the brake system on the 4 wheel ABS systems?
Also, is there a NEED to bleed the brake system when you replace the brakes on the front? I know sometimes you have to open the bleeder valve, and i'm trying to get around that, if not, i'm looking at a $90 to change the rotors and pads [46 both rotors/ 45 labor] and have the system professionally bled. Can the front pads and rotors be changed without the caliper needing to be bled?
Remove your brake reservoir cap before compressing the caliper pistons. If your bleeder screws look a little rusty, don't touch them. Likely they will break off and you definately don't want to go through all of that trouble.
one of the things i'm worried about though, is if i'll HAVE to have the brakes bled. I have a stepdad that can do it but i'm not sure if he has the time OR if he knows the proper method for the 4w ABS applications.
I will see if I can find the info tomorrow on the proper ABS bleeding procedure. It is not recommended that you undo the cap and push everything back through the system with ABS, it can cause damage. However if you put a hose into a bottle or something on the bleeder screw and slightly loosen it and push on the caliper piston, as long as you don't let the piston come back out (which it shouldn't on its own) you will not get air in the lines. I have never had problems and had to bleed my whole system just undoing the screw a little and pushing the piston back in.
When you were loosening the screw, how much brake fluid came out? How can i avoid air bubbles? I'm going to be delivering with my car [unfortunately, but hey, it's a job] so i have to make sure that i'll be able to stop when i need to.
A bit of fluid came out. Start pushing on the piston and keep pressure on it before you loosen the screw. Then Tighten the screw back up before you release pressure off the piston.
you have to bleed the brakes if you open up the system...no way around it.
start on the passengers side front, then do the drivers side front.
it's really not that hard...
open the bleeder... have the person push the pedal down slowly... tighten the bleeder (while the pedal is down)... repeat until no more air is coming out... do the other side... then go back and do the passengers side like 2 more times just to make sure there is no air...same with the drivers side... making sure the whole time the master cylinder does NOT run out of fluid...
you shouldn't have to bleed the whole system if ur just doing the front and not the rear brakes the resivor has 2 seprate resevoris for the front and rear just make sure it is full befor you start. also the rears have seperate lines. you will need a helper. and you start on the side ferthest from the res. which would be the pass Tighten the bleeder helper pumps brakes untill he feels the pedal stiffen up after it is stiff helper presses and holds the pedal to the floor loosen bleeder it will spit and sputter ie. getting air out of line tighten bleeder. helper lets go of pedal repeat that process untill its stops spitting and a solid stream comes out line it is easier to tell if you have a clear hose u can put over the tip of the bleeder then you can see the air in the lineit is also cleaner way of doing it after you have all the air out of the pass side fill up res.and do the same thing on the drivers side when you're done fill up you're res check for pedal stiffness and dont forget to seat the brakes , also why you're doing the brake job be sure to clean the caliper slides and re lube them also the back side of the pads. and clean the rotors good with brake parts cleaner pugsley
I have changed the pads out on my 93 Dakota, and it was a warrantied exchange b/c after only 1/8 pad gone, a rock [maybe] had gotten between the caliper and the rotor and chipped a small part off the pad. Either way, it got warrantied and the brakes that had been on for a year got refreshed. Now, it was just me doing the labor on replacing them. I didn't have to loosen any bleeders to get the piston to go back in and it was a simple drop in and re-install the bolts. I've noticed that since I have replaced it, if the truck has been sitting for a few hours, the pedal will super grab on the first time i press it when i'm going forward. after that, it's just a normal grab. It's annoying to me so i kind of want to avoid it if i can on the venge. Like i said, super grab, then normal braking. The pedal pressure and resistance to my foot stays the same.
When the Dakota's wheel cylinder's got replaced, I was the one on the pedal. So, i didn't really get to watch my step dad do the work.
simple little quickie if your bleeding on ABS cars that are from like the 80s to now start with the brakes farthest from the Master Cylinder so if its on the left side start with the rear right brake then do the front left since they are diagonaly split. Vice versa if the MC is on the other side of the car. You dont HAVE to bleed them though you should just remove the resivoir cap and compress the piston only time you gotta worry about that is if there is a leak then air can get in from the leak or if you are replacing the caliper completely.