Once again trying to get life into the board, and this is something that will probably do that.
I don't really care about what the Gay Community wants to do. It doesn't affect me, so I say live and let live. I think they should have all the work related benefits that Heteros get. Why not, we're giving away money to poverty and welfare all the time. And I work with those people everyday. Most (not all) of them don't want to work or do anything. So why not let the people that are at least contributing to society, gay or not, get the benefits they deserve, along with their loved ones!
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those two statements, to me, means that marriage as a "religious thing" is in the past. Therefore, you can't use that argument to state that gays shouldn't marry.
Ok, so you say: having gay parents will f up the kid. Two moms? you need a mom and a dad.
PROBLEM: SINGLE PARENTS, HETEROSEXUAL. Won't the kid get f-d up to? No momma, or poppa? I'd rather have two loving moms than one overworked, overstressed mom.
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Yes I agree with that. I think open mindedness is a good thing as long as it's not to the extreme. As long as the mother's are men haters, and the men aren't men haters, I don't really care. As long as the child grows up healthy it doesn't bother me. And for those that think the gays will screw it up more, check out poverty level children.
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those two statements, to me, means that marriage as a "religious thing" is in the past. Therefore, you can't use that argument to state that gays shouldn't marry.
Ok, so you say: having gay parents will f up the kid. Two moms? you need a mom and a dad.
PROBLEM: SINGLE PARENTS, HETEROSEXUAL. Won't the kid get f-d up to? No momma, or poppa? I'd rather have two loving moms than one overworked, overstressed mom.
i so agree! marriage is no longer a religious event. just an excuse to take a vacation and save on heath, life, and auto insurance. it has certainly lost sanctity it had long ago. i say let them get married! out of curiosity, when two gays get married, does either of them change their last name? how does that work? just curious.
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Way to be different!! I think if they want to be married in a church or some other religion type place, that's up to the owner of the property. But as far as the legal status, I don't care. Let them be. It won't affect me anyway.
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How can you be sure. The Bible and all other religious works were written by man, and there are plenty of parts that weren't included. And it's back to the religion issue. If your religion forbids it, then you're right, no one in your religion should approve of Gay marriage. I think the only arguement against it is religion, but we have a seperation of church and state.
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How can you be sure. If your religion forbids it, then you're right, no one in your religion should approve of Gay marriage.
WOOHOO, That means I'm right!
Just curious, but can't a hetero sexual, semi-conservative, born again Christian, tax paying, American born and bred, flag bearin patriotic, domestic driven, hard workin guy have anything that can be left sacred? If they want to make it legal, fine, but can't they called it something other than "marriage"? Oh I know that will "put them in a class" ..........duh, they are in a class, we're all in a class some how. I have no problem with same sex marriages having all the same benefits of a "traditional" marriage, I just think that opposite sex marriages that can stay together with out killing each other are entitled to some perks, LOL.
It gets complex, at least up here, from what I understand in that they can force a place to let them get married there. So, from what I understand at least, that if a gay couple wanted to get married in a Catholic church they might be able to force the church to let them? I might be not understanding it quite, so correct me where I'm wrong. They should be able to have the rights of marriage, but I dunno.. so complex as then things start to infringe on other people's religous rights and then again discriminates against people who are gay. I have no idea what to think...
Yeah neither group should be able to FORCE it's views on anyone. Gays want to get married fine, but do NOT expect everyone to feel the same way, and DO NOT force the churches to OK it. It's a lot like interracial was back in the day, not even that far back. Everyone thought it was hedonistic, and guess what the world hasn't exploded. Gays will be mostly accepted just the way blacks are now. There will always be tension because when someone is noticably different, someone will hate them.
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It gets complex, at least up here, from what I understand in that they can force a place to let them get married there. So, from what I understand at least, that if a gay couple wanted to get married in a Catholic church they might be able to force the church to let them? I might be not understanding it quite, so correct me where I'm wrong. They should be able to have the rights of marriage, but I dunno.. so complex as then things start to infringe on other people's religous rights and then again discriminates against people who are gay. I have no idea what to think...
I believe it is actually, that Churches and places that do not believe in gay marriage do not have to marry them if they so choose. However, if there is a priest who will, then yes, they can get married in a catholic church. It is the government who must recognize the union/marriage, and may not turn them away.
Personally, I don't care. It doesn't affect me. The argument that is somehow "lowers" or "dilutes" another persons marriage is rediculous, as it makes it sound like gays/lesbians are somehow lower levels of people, not deserving of the rights every other non-gay/lesbian are entitled to. To me, that is just crap.
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Just curious, but can't a hetero sexual, semi-conservative, born again Christian, tax paying, American born and bred, flag bearin patriotic, domestic driven, hard workin guy have anything that can be left sacred
Nope, because the same question could be asked by ANYONE (ie but can't a hetero sexual, semi-liberal, Muslim, tax paying, American citizen legal immigrant, flag bearin patriotic, import driven, hard workin woman have anything that can be left sacred). Her beliefs and yours may not match, and who is to say which persons beliefs are more important. You are both have the same rights, but different philosophies and neither you, nor I or the government should be able to say that one persons beliefs are more important then anothers.
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