Latest FAQ's
Popular
Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
  Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
December 04, 2008, 06:49:12 AM
Home Help Search
News: ASOG Store is Back!

Get your t-shirts, coffee mugs and more at our ASOG Store.

+  ASOG Forums
|-+  Tech Forums
| |-+  Suspension and Brakes
| | |-+  Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel  (Read 331 times)
Bluethunder1
Newbie
*

Karma: 0
Posts: 1


View Profile
Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« on: June 23, 2007, 04:26:33 AM »

Hey guys, I'm getting my first car a '95 Dodge Avenger. The deal we have with the used car place is that they have to fix some problems with it before we buy it, and they haven't been able to fix the issue with the brakes. There it tons of travel/soft. The brake pads have been replaced as well as the master cylinder but still no luck. Any ideas? Thanks!  Grin
Logged
Nykon
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 74
Posts: 1179


There is too much blood in my caffine stream!


View Profile WWW
Re: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2007, 05:47:23 AM »

Do you have ABS and if so was it bled correctly?


Sounds like there is air in the line.
Logged


Ut oh, it went down! :\
Darktengu
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 63
Posts: 1871


Criminals survive because society is fearful


View Profile WWW
Re: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2007, 02:39:04 PM »

are you slowly loosing fluid?  If not then it's likely air like Nykon said.  But if you're losing fluid you need to start looking for leaks.
Logged



titan-racing.com
Medialocker.org

Mod List.  Um WAY too many to fit on here.  But the engine can handle about 800HP
JusBringIt
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 39
Posts: 1942


Jus Bring It


View Profile WWW
Re: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2007, 05:09:30 PM »

bleed...its good for ur brakes
Logged



Aaron
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 7
Posts: 365

getcha HELLYEAH


View Profile
Re: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2007, 07:37:48 PM »

haha i can help im a certified brake guy!!! yeah ok well yes to me it sounds like air in the line THAT OR it is a bad assit pump, here is where my knowledge is lack i dont know if our cars use a hydraulic or a vaccum assist pump im guessing its vaccum since we are not diesels or turboed, meaning the engine has plenty of vaccum to assist you with. Is there a whoosh noise when the pedal is pressed. is it a gradual fade or is it a sudden fade?
Logged
Enemytoast
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 10
Posts: 583


I am jacks Colon


View Profile WWW
Re: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2007, 10:38:26 PM »

Hey, sorry to steal a little bit, but I don't think my brakes whoosh at all.

What does the whoosh mean?
Logged

-Cory
Ninja Black Crew #097

*AVENGER IS DEAD*
Aaron
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 7
Posts: 365

getcha HELLYEAH


View Profile
Re: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2007, 02:54:50 AM »

well if its a vacuum assist its the air and a hole in the diaphragm
Logged
Enemytoast
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 10
Posts: 583


I am jacks Colon


View Profile WWW
Re: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2007, 06:54:25 PM »

so whoosh = bad?

Good, because I have no whoosh.  I do know of a truck that whoosh's so loud it's crazy.  I'll make sure to relay this back to him. Thanks.
Logged

-Cory
Ninja Black Crew #097

*AVENGER IS DEAD*
Aaron
Sr. Member
****

Karma: 7
Posts: 365

getcha HELLYEAH


View Profile
Re: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2007, 05:41:38 AM »

not completely....


For vaccume assist...it starts at the brake pedal. From there there is a pushrod that goes into the assis, the assist has engine vacuume suppied to it from the engine through a one way valve. When the brakes are applied the pushrod moves a piston back, that piston moves the diaphragm that it is attached to, this helps some but the real assistance is from atmospheric pressure. That piston is air tight and when it is pushed it allows air int that chamber on the one side of the diaphragm. This pressure (atmospheric air pressure) gets in there it pushed all of the diaphragm forward (due to the vacuume on the other side the pressure from the outside is much greater therefore it moves it more).

When the air gets into that chamber it makes a small woosh noise, its not much its just the air getting in there. Now if there is a lot of noise thre could be a bad seal there and the air could be getting in the whole thing therefore eleminating the assist and making a good amount of noise so thats where is huge ammount of travel would come from.

I will make a brakes how to here in the next couple of days.

« Last Edit: July 15, 2007, 06:08:45 AM by Aaron » Logged
Enemytoast
Hero Member
*****

Karma: 10
Posts: 583


I am jacks Colon


View Profile WWW
Re: Soft Brakes/Tons of travel
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2007, 04:36:22 PM »

Cool.  I was thinking about the whoosh yesterday and I did notice a whoosh, but it was very little.  The whoosh in this other guys truck is incredible.
Logged

-Cory
Ninja Black Crew #097

*AVENGER IS DEAD*
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  



Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP ASOG Forums | Powered by SMF 1.1 RC1.
© 2001-2005, Lewis Media. All Rights Reserved.
Joomla Bridge by JoomlaHacks.com
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Content © 2004 ASOG.net
Design by Joomlactive