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Re: 2.4 swap
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2007, 08:04:22 PM »

sorry for making you angry..

can anyone here take sarcasm ?

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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2007, 08:55:42 PM »

 Grin

Alain just wants you to listen.  He's willing to share his vast knowledge on this kind of thing, as long as you don't contradict him.

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Re: 2.4 swap
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2007, 09:00:13 PM »

i thought it was more common than it is. And i was just asking specs to C&C 2.0 vs 2.4
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2007, 02:34:58 AM »

i thought it was more common than it is. And i was just asking specs to C&C 2.0 vs 2.4

I wish more peoples would try it  but since there are no "kit" for the swap and you need to built your own engine too it makes people nervous
yet it's a more doable swap than the 4g63t

http://asog.net/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,30/topic,2820.30

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2007, 02:51:56 AM »

I am willing to do it but I am going to build and turbo my spare 2.0 that I just got.  That is why I suggested it to Matt, figured we could both work on it.  I didn't give him much info on it.
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Re: 2.4 swap
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2007, 05:03:44 AM »

i'm willing to do it, but what would be better for speed? I'm stuck driving a slowass 82 diesel jetta  Angry
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Re: 2.4 swap
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2007, 05:23:45 AM »

What?  I though the car was in working condition?

Oh and matt, if you wanna compete with the cocky honda's in your jetta, Get a chain and challenge them to a tow-off.
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Re: 2.4 swap
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2007, 06:02:22 AM »

i'm willing to do it, but what would be better for speed? I'm stuck driving a slowass 82 diesel jetta  Angry

again what do YOU want ?
and what do YOU have right now ? most ES were v6
and how much you want to spend

let say you want an all motor car, (newbies take note all motor = no turbo no supercharger but Nos is ok, only a honda boy will say that he drive a all motor turbo civic )

to make power you will need a profesionnally ported head , a set of powerfull camshafts, a set of cam gears, a set of valve springs and an updated sets of rockers and lash adjustors
the same head is needed for either a 2.0 or a 2.4  the difference will only be choice of camshafts, like Crane #18 for a 2.0 and crane #22 for a 2.4
either the 2.0 or 2.4 you won't find a decent header on the market that makes power, because you need a true long tube header and it will need to be custom made

so head = same cost 2.0 or 2.4

bottom end forged pistons and forged rods cost the same 2.0 or 2.4
block: 2.4 cost a little more because 2.0 you could grab neon block by the dozen

pan: custom 2.4 or a decent pan like the moroso = same cost

fuel 2.0 would need #24 or #30 injectors  2.4 #30 or 36 or even #42
however the cost is pretty much the same

2.0 direct fit 2.4 you need some engine mount and creative work for power steering

exhaust work same cost

results : potentially 180-185 whp on a 2.0L for several thousands , 230-240 whp on a 2.4 for several thousands

now let say you want a commercial turbo kit
the cost of the kit is the same
engine wise the 2.0 would need forged internals
the 2.4 could use cheaper $wise but still very strong srt-4 internals

the head could even stay stock , same cost for the 2 engines

block : read above a second time

pan : read above a second time

the 2.4 will delivers tons of power 350 hp at 4500 rpm is easy to do
the 2.0 could delivers too but a 7000 or more rpm for the same hp
torque wise the 2.4 will be way ahead of the 2.0

if you only want an engine with a few bolt ons like 95% of the peoples out there don't even bother researching

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Re: 2.4 swap
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2007, 02:14:28 PM »

The car runs, but the tags are expired. And i'll do some research and tell you want i want.
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Re: 2.4 swap
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2007, 02:24:22 PM »

its a 4cyl es.
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2007, 10:59:54 PM »

which makes it cooler Grin
Alright, actually i'm not sure what i want, i would like a turbo, that would be cool that's what Nykon and I were going to do originally but what would you do? I want to make it fast.
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Re: 2.4 swap and some random stuff about chicken and whores
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2007, 08:33:48 PM »

Just turbo it with a premade kit like a hahn or treadstone turbo kit and be done with it.
Once you can't stand lower boost then rebuild the motor/get a better fuel system and up the boost
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Re: 2.4 swap and some random stuff about chicken and whores
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2007, 01:13:17 AM »

or how bout you skip the not standing lower boost and make it perfect with a high boost the first time?
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Re: 2.4 swap and some random stuff about chicken and whores
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2007, 02:35:51 AM »

the do what I am doing

Build up the bottom end, prepare the head and go for it.
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Re: 2.4 swap and some random stuff about chicken and whores
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2007, 05:21:00 AM »

what an informative thread to bad Alain got upset and quit the site. its ok though he learned by doing so thats what everyone else has to do i might swap my v6 out for a 4 and maybe the srt4s engine if it will fit havent done any real research to see if it will though.
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