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« on: April 21, 2007, 08:29:12 PM »

Here's my How-To on water pumps.

TAKE THEM IN!!!  This thing is a pain.  I got the old one out and the new one in.  But now I have to mess with timing and all that crap.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2007, 10:28:50 PM »

There is no how to...   Huh

Do you have the cam gear tool??  Makes it soo much easier.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2007, 02:18:44 AM »

I'm close to shooting the car.  I suck at timing and though the car starts it runs ROUGH.  I thought I had the timing perfect too....

And on top of it I heard a nice bang.  So I"m hoping it's not destroyed.  Damn it all.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2007, 09:12:26 AM »

good advice in such short words
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2007, 02:56:25 PM »

i tried do my timing belt and water pump.... but eFing failed, had to tow it out.

but i hope your car is fine bro  Embarrassed
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2007, 03:50:48 PM »

I hope that bang was a backfire?
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2007, 04:02:58 PM »

uhh oh, that sucks man hope it works out...oh and dont shoot it yet
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2007, 06:21:18 PM »

I'm hoping it was a back fire or something too.  Won't know until I try again.  Damn it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2007, 02:42:53 AM »

Dave says..

Always always rotate the crank 4 times and recheck timing marks  before buttoning it up.

bit late though.. everyone else learn from darktengu's mistake ;-)
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2007, 03:10:36 AM »

I rotated it Three times.  But something I noticed is that if you do the crank, and set that at the marks.  rotate the crank once.  The Camgear marks will be a half rotation off.  But if you rotate the crank again the camgear marks are on.  So I have no clue.

Also the good news is the valves weren't bent.  But something was stopping my intake camshaft from rotating.  I pulled the engine as seen in the General area.  I thought the valves were for sure bent but they're fine.  But I couldn't move the camshaft AT ALL.  either way.  It was stuck.

Motor is pulled apart and going to an Engine Machine shop some time this week (probably Monday)
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2007, 04:36:53 AM »

I don't know that it's the same, but the v6 the engine is only in time every two rotations of the crank, when piston 1 is at tdc.  The marks being off is normal I believe.  If you had the adjustable cam gears....well...you only have to be off by a hair.  Embarrassed I dunno, I did my water pump and timing.

Good luck with the rest man, at least you have an excuse to push those plans forward.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2007, 12:32:08 PM »

Guys..

the cams spin at 1/2 the speed of the crank

so you have to turn the crank 2x for the cams to do one rotation

rotating the crank 4 times guarantees that the timing is good.

The only thing that would stop the cam from turning is bent valves.. or valves hitting a piston.

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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2007, 10:05:37 PM »

or valves hitting a piston.

I'm assuming that was my problem, but I'd have to get new gaskets and all that.  So we'll just move forward with the built motor  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2007, 07:00:49 AM »

Very good my young pupil. Out of the ashes explodes a brilliant pheonix.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2007, 09:21:07 PM »



 Wink Wink
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