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Jago Kaast
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Guages and Installing...
« on: August 02, 2006, 04:29:10 AM »

Hey fellas.

I'm back from a long break. If any of you remember RaVeN or something like taht from like 2 years ago.

Anyways, I'm back into the whole mind set that is modding the Venge, and my next step is gauges and a gauge pod.  I'm pretty dead set of getting them but I'm a little hesitant on getting a mechanical oil pressure gauge.  Anyone have a mechanical oil pressure gauge and could walk me thru the install, like where teh oil sender is (if that is even something i'm supossed to look for) and all that stuff... I know i really should have a Haynes manual, but it has always slipped my mind. 

Well, its good to be back in the game, and i hope i can see some of u guys at a meet or something.

PEACE
-Jago a.k.a. RaVeN
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2006, 05:48:46 PM »

Well, I got a manual now (finally) but the thing is, the diagram in the picture doesn't match the engine Tongue:P:P (damn joo Haynes!)

I took a few snapshots under the engine in the general vicinity of the oil filter, where the manual said it should be...
When I looked up in there there were 3 different plug thingys, no clue what is what.  Take a look for yourselves:


This one?



Or one of these 2?


I hope someone can help me figure this stuff out.

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-Jago
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2006, 09:43:35 PM »

Go with electric, and welcome back home  Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2006, 08:08:50 AM »

... Now I'm more confused... Huh Tongue

That picture/text is backwards somewhere... "Below the exhaust manifold, on the Firewall side" makes no sense to me... My Haynes book says the sending unit is on the Back side on the transaxle end.  Now, I realized that I took pics of the wrong side, but i think the one thats Farthest left in one of my pics could be the sending unit... Could anyone confirm this for me?

BTW, I have already ordered the mechanical gauge so I have to make this work.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2006, 05:23:14 PM »

You know, after looking at that I'm confused also. I jacked up the car went under from the passenger side and it was towards the drivers side between the block and firewall. A real PITA to get to. I never really got to see what it looked like or where it was, just felt around and got lucky. This was a couple of years ago so there is my disclaimer, but you can handle it. Sorry I could not be a little more precise  Undecided
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2006, 02:29:13 PM »

That picture is for the 2.5 I will see if I can find one for the 2.0.  Hey on the plus side you beat me to a picture Dave... just put up the wrong one hehe.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2006, 07:22:27 PM »

well... this is getting harder than I first thought it would be.  I can't seem to find that damn sender, I mean, the one in the picture (2nd pic, farthest left) sounds like it might be the winner but its too damn hard to get to and I'm still not 100% that its the one.

Since i can't seem to confirm where the sending unit is, I was looking into possibly getting an Oil Filter Block Adapter.  I see Greddy makes one and i'm sure it could help me later if I ever get to turboing my Venge.  Only problem with this route is I have no idea what I'm looking for as an adapter.  Greddy's description of the product says "fits most japanese engines" and that doesn't really help the 420A Tongue.  My question is: Does anyone have an Oil Filter Block Adapter on their 420A and could tell me where they bought it?  It would really help a lot.

I'll post up some pics of my interior w/ gauges and stuff, they look awesome. Smiley

-Jago
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2006, 05:18:51 AM »

Hey I Got It!

Well i got all teh gauges up and running!  My only problem is that the OP gauge is giving me weird readings (like 60 @ idle, goes down to bout 20-25 after a while).  My thoughts are that there is air in the line.  To my understanding of the oil pressure sending unit, there will always be air in that system.  I believe that only when u start the car and it is running that there is pressure to the unit, (hence why your oil light is on just as u turn the key to start your car, and why the air will stay in those lines because the oil will drain back down to the pan.) Am I right to think this? and if I'm wrong does anyone know how to get those reading right? 

O well life goes on, and it still looks cool!

Pics in a sec!

-Jago


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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2006, 02:38:12 PM »

Very nice looking.
Your Avenger has crank windows?? I didn't know that was an option...
fascinating...

Do you have an oil line going to your gauge??

If you are using the original oil pressure sending unit it will not work with the gauge.  It is designed for a light.  You will have to get an aftermarket sensor and install it somewhere else or get a sensor that will work for both.  That may be the reason you are getting odd readings.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2006, 05:39:20 PM »

Wow that looks really good.  Pics are great.  No ban.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2006, 07:15:37 PM »

yep, oil line running to gauge... dam why oh why was i so stubborn to get the full sweep gauge over the partial sweep? (full sweep only offerd in mechanical)  oh well, I guess i'll have to deal with it for now, least it looks bad ass Smiley

think an oil filter block adapter might solve this problem?

... and yes, crank windows suck

-Jago
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