That looks like a cloud car diagram, I believe their PS is at the back.

Are these any good:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JVT-Racing-Headers-Eclipse-95-99-2-0L-Avenger-Talon-NT_W0QQitemZ330161161408QQihZ014QQcategoryZ33631QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I saw somebody's pic on here of an Ebay header that the collector separated from the tubes after like 1 year or something, don't want to buy the same thing

Well, all I know is it looks a hell of a lot better than the intakes on the old boosted mopars    Actually the entire top end looks a whole lot better lol. I guess that why I'm expecting more of it.

So, what if I used ITB's? Anyone done that on these yet?

So it takes some pretty good head porting and high compression to make the big numbers? Sorry if I sound repetitive, I just want to get the build right in my head before I start. What about valves? Do bigger valves make that much difference? And how does the stock intake fare? Any better options on it?

I'm still set on an all-motor build right now, but only to a certain point. Basically, if it's gets to the point to where an extra 10-15hp is gonna cost me $1000 or better, then I'll turbo it. BTW I do all my own work, other than machine work, so I won't have any labor to pay in this build, except for buying myself Mt Dew for the shop fridge 

How about the tin plate that bolts to the back of the engine behind the flywheel? Forget exactly what you call it, inspection plate, dust shield, whatever.

How much power do these engines have stock? Has to be around 150 crank hp right? Basically the same as a Neon R/T engine, except w/ a backwards head, maybe different cam grinds. Seems to be pretty tough to make 200hp all-motor though. I'm hoping the light weight will make up for a lot of it though. What the factory torque rating?

Rice. Although some of the tinniness was prolly the camera, most don't record accurate sound that close.

I say if you want a good sound and more power, just chop the muffler off and replace it w/ a chrome tip or something. The cat and the factory resonator will keep it muffled pretty well.

And you'll never get the 2.0 to sound like a G35, unless maybe you figure out how to add 2 more cyl's to it

True, I didn't realize how expensive cams were for these engines. Lol I'm used to buying V8 cams for like 50-100 bucks.

My goal? An all-motor build eventually, high-compression, ported head, etc. Before that though, I'm gonna run the engine stock until I get the bugs worked out and money saved, so right now I'm looking for cams that will complement a stock engine. It's a '96 engine, if it makes any difference.

Been looking at cams, probably gonna put a set in the Charger along w/ adj gears, before I build the engine. Seem Crane and Crower are the only ones making cams for them. The Neon guys seem to think Crane 14's are about the best for a stock compression engine, does this hold true for the Avenger engine? Anyone had any experience w/ the Crower cams? Looks like Stage 1 Crowers would be the most a stock engine would want.

Okay, looks like I'm kinda off track on my thinking for this build. Building for hi-rev hp is a no-no then, will make it a dog everywhere else right? So, I think what I need is to just see what you guys think would be the best combo for this criteria:

Lightweight car, 1800-2k lbs w/ me in it
Road race/mountain road suspension/chassis set-up
Best combo of power and responsiveness

I'm totally open right now, my original ideas are apparently useless and I'm a noob to these engines. Should I be building for torque rather than hp? As you say it is an evolution of the 2.2, and that's what you do w/ them basically, typically a 2.2 makes a crapload more torque then hp.

Well, turbo may come later, we'll see how it does all-motor. I can lose a little low end, because it's gonna be light, and it'll have a good deep gear if it needs it. I've got it bolted to a stock A-525 trans, as long as my starter works right (as I think it will), then I can run stock 2.2/2.5 trannies. And I have a 525 sitting in the shop w/ a 3.85 gear What's the powerband/max rpm limit on the Avenger heads? 8500? 9k?

Sounds good, I'm still kinda up in the air about it actually. The general consensus everywhere seems to be turbo it, but I'd like to do something different. I already have turbo cars ('87 Shelby GLHS, '87 Shelby Z Daytona, '87 RX-7 Turbo II), so I want to do an NA car. I like road racing/mountain runs more than dragging also, so it's gonna be geared more towards that. I'd like to build a lightweight responsive car to that purpose.  Basically I want a strong mid to top-end engine, like I say low-end can be sacrificed a bit since the car will only weigh around 2000 lbs w/ me in it.

Hi guys, been lurking around for a little while. I have an '84 Shelby Charger that I'm dropping a '96 Avenger 2.0 DOHC into, actually already have it set in, working on finishing up motor mounts and figuring out electronics and exhaust.

Now, I'm leaving it stock for now, till I get this thing running and driving and work out all the bugs. However, after that, I'm gonna build it up, going all-motor. Looking for advice and ideas on cams, internals, valvetrain etc. I'm thinking at least 10.5:1 compression and hoping to spin it to at least 8k or more. Loss of low end power is acceptable as long as it's making big power up top. Car weight will hopefully be around 1800-2000 lbs w/ me in it.

I'm on the Neon forum too, since the bottom end is the same, but I'm not sure how similar the heads are, w/ the Avenger being "backwards" from the Neons. Do the cams interchange?

Thanks for any help, anybody have an idea what hp one of these engines can make NA?

Sparkle City here Although I don't actually own an Avenger, I am dropping a 2.0 out of one into an '84 Shelby Charger. Joined up to see if I can glean some info on the engine. I do eventually plan on picking up an early ('95 or '96) Avenger 5-spd at some point.