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has any tried this? or know of someone?

Basically, a dirrect port wet system using propane as the fuel source?  ???



CMC

propane is for diesels

am not sure about that ....dsm crowd have been doing this for awhile...evo crowd too...


CMC

i think its been done but im not for sure.

yeah, i've only seen propane done with diesels, so if you wanna give it a try, be careful!!

hydrogen is actually viable, i know this site sounds like B.S. but one of my instructors made something similar and it works

http://water4gas.com/2books.htm

basically you take a jar(or multiple jars for better results) put an anode and a cathode in(stainless steel wire works best) and put electricty to it, it splits the water into H and O and pipe it into your intake(if you have any kind of forced induction put it before that  to it still pulls a vacuum) for a diesel you're done, for a gas engine you need to trick your sensors to use the hydrogen more effeciently.

i've never heard of anyone using propane on gas engines. got any links so i can see what you're seeing?

and are you sure you're not thinking of meth injection? thats a pretty popular thing to use on boosted engines

i hit some sites on friday, let me stiff around and find them again...


basically what they were say is using NO2 as the oxidizer and Propane as the Fuel.... so a wet kit using propane instead gas off the fuel rail....

i also see something about using propane to lean out the fuel...in boost applications


CMC

i've seen a car run off of CNG(compressed natural gas) so i suppose propane wouldnt be too much differnt

i'd just hate to have to fill up at "blue rhino"  :D

blue rhino :D :D :D.... ya, give me a red bull, 20lbs of blue rhino propane, and i had $40 in ethanol on pump #5... :D



CMC

hmmm. methinks me should read into some of this.

let us know what you find, it sounds interesting. though as i said, i've only seen it done with diesel.

on a side note, i love diesels. you can put ANYTHING into a diesel, propane, N02, hydrogen, veggie oil.

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CMC

http://www.bankspower.com/FAQs_highperform.cfm (http://www.bankspower.com/FAQs_highperform.cfm)

working on more information... its not all together

CMC

you can use propane in gas engines as a fuel by itself LPG (liquid petroleum gas) is what its called CNG is also used its a little different but close some new hybrids are CNG and honda is coming out with a CNG car its really neat stuff i would do a propane kit in my car if it wasnt for my stereo, but you dont have to change to much just add stuff and you can switch between gas and propane while you are driving
here is a website that does the LPG and CNG kits http://www.lpg-kits.com/ most of the companies doing this to gas cars are oversees and it takes a week or 2 to get a reply to your emails, ive only heard of a few people doing it to their cars here i think it is definitely worth if for environmental reasons im not so sure for fuel economy

^^^those tanks are sweet... i like the spare wheel ones :o

Sounds like BS to me.  While electrolysis like this is an experiment done in many high school science classes, conservation of energy still applies.  You won't get more energy out of burning the by-products than you put into the system electrically to break down the water in the first place.  Given all the losses of your standard internal combustion engine and drive train, you'd be better off tying an electric motor to your drive shaft to use as an acceleration booster a la hybrids...

like i said, i know it sounds like B.S. but one of my instructors built one similar and he got 30-40% increase in MPG (when he keeps his foot out of it :) ). and i think where this confuses people is that this is an additive, not a fuel, so the purpose of the hydrogen isnt to power the car, its to help the fuel you're already using get maximum effeciency. so the best way to look at this is a effeciency enhancer NOT a power enhancer.