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first a little backstory, my tire blew, so i take it to pep boys and get all 4 new tires (the other ones were about dead anyway, and why buy 1 tire then 3 tires 10,000 miles later, so i went and got the 4 tires for the price of 3 deal

anyway the guy calls me back and says my tie rods are junk(which i suspected) and then the supervisor calls me back and tells me my hub/bearing is bad, and he wiggles the tire 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock, i give it a try and sure enough it wiggles, but it did not wiggle 12-6, correct me if im wrong, but wouln't a 3-9 shake only indicate a bad tie-rod which the other tech(who had actually looked at my suspenstion) had already told me, NOT a bad hub?


sometime later this week, im going to get the tire off and inspect it myself, cause i just had the 2 seconds, of "here look".

ALSO

how much do tie rod ends cost? i'd probably end up getting a set, the pass side's boot is gone, and the driver's is getting there.

and then if the pep boys manager is correct and its my hub, how much would that cost, and how difficult are they on these. i've changed hubs before, and it ranges from 3 bolts and the castle nut, all the way to basically replacing the spindle.


oh and P.S. my baby LOVES new tires, stops better, goes better.

Hubs will run you 100-120 per depending on who you get them from and what brand. If you get them from your local parts store, ask them which ones are the 'economical' ones. Then stay away from them. lol

Can't remember the price on the tie rod ends though. Have a 2nd opinion done on the Hubs, just don't tell them what you know, cuz i remember when mine had to be replaced, it was 12, 6 that moved, not 9 and 3.

If 12 and 6 dont move, then your hub bearing isn't bad. If 3 and 9 moves, it's either you inner tie rods, outer tie rods, or both.

thats what i thought now i just gotta get her back off her tires and double check

because i had to stop myself from callin the guy a moron when he shook it 3-9 and told me the hub was bad. and the tech, who seemed much smarter than the manager btw, pointed out the tie rod about 3 minutes into the job. oh, i also have a slightly bent spot on the bead of my rims, its small and located in such a way that it shouldn't affect it, but im just curious as to how that happened. i know it wasnt me.

If your wheel bearing was bad,they generally make noise more so when turnig right or left.Should be a growling sound or like a friend of mine said,sounds like a helicoptor is tailing me.

gaahhh, dangit pep boys....i lost the centercap of one of my wheels, they didnt forget to put it on, i would have noticed, i didnt notice today til i went to get gas and it was gone....dangit.... :'(

any body have any spares :)

ill have to go to a junkyard and pick one up...:(

I have a few of those stock 96 center caps laying around here.

sweet, how much you want for one? and where do you live (seeing if pickup or shipping would be more economical)

Anson I just did all my tie rods and inner tie rods for about 65 buckes getting them from advance.

cool thats not as bad as i thought it'd be....

Don't go cheap on tie rods. They are what keeps your front wheels straight. Imagine one breaking when your going 80 on the interstate.

Moog brand is around double the price of cheap no-name parts but the quality is worth the extra.

And about the wheel cap, i'm located in Missouri. Shipping is cheap due to they weigh practically nothing. It could use a fresh coat of paint so like $10 shipped works for me.

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like totally scratched up, or just minor knicks


and for the tie rods, it basically boils down to the more it costs, the longer before i can scrape the cash up to do it. and if i get it in three weeks, i can wrangle up a free alignment (yay, community college automotive program), if not i'll kinda be guessing....and i know my alignment is ate up. but ill be working more this summer, so i suppose i could drop it off at sears sometime, eh...ill look into it....dang you for giving me options.... :P but thanks for the advice :D

It's not that bad but not show quality either.

I went with the good kind this time Autozones ones are crap..

And you think Advance no-name parts are better than autozone? $65 for all 4 right? You get what you pay for.

TRW was always pretty good [the Advance I worked at]. May not have been Moog good, but they had lifetime warranties on them.

hey that perfectly discribes my car.... lol  :D
i was gonna take a junkyard trip when it gets warm, and ill see if i can't locate some (i love junkyard diggin, find all kinda of interesting....and sometimes creepy stuff), if not ill PM ya, and work out the details from there.

and as far as the tie rods, the TRW sound alright as long as they lifetime warranty. ill look into the moog, but i'd always rather go and pick them up than have them shipped, that way if there is a mix-up i can get it solved in hours, not 3-5 bidness days. and there isnt the "oh you weren't home to sign for these so they've been shipped back to kentucky

I'm not going to harp on this and I understand that these cars are getting old and not worth putting the extra money into unless you plan to keep the car for another 10 years. The decision is totally up to you and i'll just point out the difference between Auto part store parts and Moog parts.

Auto part store tie rods have a metal ball that sits in a plastic socket. Now if it is properly lubed and kept sealed so moisture don't get to it, they will last quite a while. If your tie rod boot is worn out, cracked or has a hole in it, moisture is going to get in. This goes for Moog parts as well. Replacement boots are rather inexpensive. Oem tie rods are no better than part store parts.

Moog has a metal ball that sits in a metal socket. Therefore, it will last years longer than a plastic socket will as long as moisture is kept away from it via a good boot.

Sure TRW has a lifetime warranty but I doubt that warranty covers labor and an alignment when or if they do fail. Inner tie rods are not the easiest parts to change out on a car.

yeah, well if i get the TRW, i'll probably have the time to change them myself AND we have an alignment rack at school. also its the outer tie rods that are shot.

but yeah, as i said earlier dang you for giving me a decision to make  :P, i'd like to get the moog, but right now my budget can't handle it, im a poor college student  :-\ i just got a job and it should help, but i'm not going to get a paycheck from them for about a month(they pay bi-weekly and the first check is delayed for processing) so that should help, but it willl remove the opportunity for the free alignment.

Ya Daes. I wouldve went with the moog ones but im like anson my budget is to tight.
Actually doing the inner tie rod wasnt that bad. It just took me a bit to get the boot back on. Clamp didnt wanna close and stay tight.