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Title: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: fifthorda on February 02, 2008, 03:58:28 AM
Hi. I am planning to go turbo this summer. I found a kit on ebay( I know some of you are probably slapping their faces right now), but I showed it to my cousin who is a drag car mechanic, and he said it looked ok. I wanted to know if everything I would need is in that kit, and your opinion on it. To start off, I'd keep it at 8 or less psi, until I get forged pistons, high-endurance rods etc. I know nothing about turbos, but I did notice that the exhaust exit on the turbo seems to be missing something? or is it just me?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270189629565&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Stores&refitem=270195722232&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget (http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270189629565&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Stores&refitem=270195722232&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget)
On a side note, I just finished making red angel eyes for my 95 venge, with bezels painted candy blue, if any1 wants pics, I can post some.


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: alex on February 02, 2008, 04:21:05 AM
Those turbos dont last too long and the intercoolers are not really efficient. At only 8 psi it should last a little while. I would go with one of the trusted turbo kits like one of these http://www.disturbingmotorsports.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_22_26_45&osCsid=d174e5808f85a6516848b1b2a705f6f3 unlike the ebay kit it comes with complete fuel system and downpipe with a good turbo that will last untill you want more power and upgrade.


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: Darktengu on February 02, 2008, 05:50:27 AM
I know nothing about turbos,

Glad you admit it.  The best thing to do is get a book and start reading.  You shouldn't really mess with it till you have a strong idea of what you're doing.  Are you planning on putting it on yourself?

I didn't even look at the kit since 99% of the eBay kits are the same.  You can really do some damage if you don't know what you're doing.  The kit will not include an oil pan tapped for an oil return line.  It's small stuff like that, that will cause you to blow your engine.  There's a lot more that goes into it than purchase, and bolt on.  Where do you live?  Maybe there's a member close to you that can help you with some of the mods.


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: fifthorda on February 02, 2008, 06:11:44 PM
Actualy, it does have the oil catch pan, with the lines, and much more.  :o No, I wouldnt be installing it, my cousin that I talked about earlier will. Should I just save up 3000 extra and get the one Alex wrote about?


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: Darktengu on February 02, 2008, 07:26:38 PM
Not a catch can, a return line.  The return line goes into the oil pan.  If it's just a catch can that's there to make sure oil isn't getting sucked into the air intake.  You need to tap the oil pan, and run the return line.

It's stuff like that, that can cause the engine to got Kaboom!

The TE04 is actually a fine turbocharger, especially for running low boost.  If you're just looking to throw something on and give yourself an extra 30HP then this kit will work well for you.

If you want to really push extreme horsepower, you need to rebuild the entire motor.  Also which transmission do you have.


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: Alain95i4 on February 02, 2008, 07:46:17 PM
this is not even a kit
it's a big pile of generic chinese junk parts plus a chinese knocked off manifold of the treadstone/star kit one

Alain


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: Sroufe7 on February 07, 2008, 12:58:30 AM
http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=235&cat_key=148&prodname=420a+Turbo+kit+95-99+Eclipse+Talon (http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=235&cat_key=148&prodname=420a+Turbo+kit+95-99+Eclipse+Talon)

i can get you that kit if you are interested in a REAL kit.

But you are still going to need something for a fuel system and tuning.

For about $1100 we can set you up with an 8 injector setup, braided feed line, fuel pump, 034 unit to tune with.  About the best setup you can put on your car.


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: JusBringIt on February 07, 2008, 04:22:06 AM
Quote
For about $1100 we can set you up with an 8 injector setup, braided feed line, fuel pump, 034 unit to tune with.  About the best setup you can put on your car.

I always thought the idea of having two small injectors per cylinder would be a good idea, (vs one big one) but wouldnt that involve a lot more head work?? what compression would u need to run w/ that setup?


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: Sroufe7 on February 07, 2008, 05:01:35 AM
I don't think you know how the setup i am talking about works.

to small of injector is NEVER better than one that is to big.  Would you rather run lean or rich?

The 8 injector setup is adding an injector to each intake runner and are ONLY used during boost.  Once you come out of boost it runs just on the stock injectors.


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: JusBringIt on February 07, 2008, 05:09:27 PM
the reason for my logic is that the atomized fuel will be more dispersed through out the cylinder, I must be thinking of something different. carry on.


Title: Re: turbo on 4 cyl.
Post by: Rob on April 12, 2008, 11:25:36 AM
I don't think you know how the setup i am talking about works.

to small of injector is NEVER better than one that is to big.  Would you rather run lean or rich?

The 8 injector setup is adding an injector to each intake runner and are ONLY used during boost.  Once you come out of boost it runs just on the stock injectors.

So are they similar to cold start injectors, and just run off an on/off switch? They used to do this on the old TD's to run higher boost, except just using one or sometimes 2 cold start injectors and boost pressure switches. Or are the ones you/they use bigger than that, or like normal injectors?


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