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Alright fellas, i am really considerring to change my exhaust.  Flowmaster 40 series is def. one thing checked in. 
But I have several questions and I hope you can help me out:

1)  Do those Ebay headers any good?  (suggestion about other places to get headers?)
2)  Does it really worth putting a new header in if i am not looking for a high-end power? (some header reviews tell that results are noticed on high-end)
3)  If I am gonna get new header and new muffler, is it alright to keep stock exhaust pipe? Or should I get a custom piping done with it?

I hope you guys can help me out and again thanks  :)

-Ivan

if you don't go bigger with the pipping, as in stay 2.25in (or are the 2.0L 2in??), then some mandrel bent pipping will flow better than stock. So if you have the money, I say go for it.

As far as high-end power, means its higher up in the revs. Are you just looking for more torque? Headers should show improvement over stock in all areas, but mainly high end.

This  ebay header (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-99-EAGLE-TALON-NT-DODGE-AVENGER-2-0L-CERAMIC-HEADER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33631QQhashZitem260078130502QQihZ016QQitemZ260078130502QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW) says it adds hp and torque, and its ceramic coated! Looks too good to be true though, so I'd wait on some more feedback from others on this.

Piping is 2 1/4.  I might get a hook up with making a custom pipe work, not sure yet  :-\

And i was looking at
[Header][/http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TALON-DODGE-AVENGER-4-1-95-99-NT-2-0L-STAINLESS-HEADER_W0QQitemZ220073645778QQihZ012QQcategoryZ33631QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem]

If I recall right the 4-2-1 header will help with your low end more than high end.

I would also stick with a reliable brand like Pacesetter or Aeromass.

http://www.howellautomotive.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=409

Just from what I have heard so dont quote me on this.....

Ebay headers are good , yes pacesetter or bosal are better ( of course named brand ) but also I have heard that that there is not to much of a difference unless you get a new cat-back , cam , and more. From what I think , the Ebay ones are like 80 dollars , that is like cutting the price of pacesetters in a little more then half in price. I to plan on getting the ones on Ebay. peace

I have the ebay ones on my 420a and i hate them. I've had to replace the exhaust flange gasket already and had to use a decent amount of gasket sealant to seal it.

this might be my sensor going but when i sit at idle for 5 minutes or more, my cel comes on and reads o2 malfunction.

 :-\ errrr

Sucks man , I have also heard thought they are decent. I'm just wanting to get rid of my stock ones........but i dont want alot of trouble.

yeah you see thats my issue.  Some Ebay stuff are pretty much as good as know brands (like take CAI intakes for example, i love mine off Ebay and people say 35$ and 200$ intakes are pretty much the same).

So here we go with headers, Ebay headers compared to known brands is in really big price difference...  to conclude that, now we have to sides of discussion: one is pro Ebay headers,
and other is anti Ebay headers.

 :P

So which Ebay CAI did you get , I have also been looking at those.

Here
 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-98-99-00-Dodge-Avenger-Sebring-I4-V6-Air-Intake-W-CF_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQihZ004QQitemZ140079067316)

The heat shiled will be different from the one in the picture.  I got it with heat shield for "water shiled" haha, and it works good, i drove through some really, really flooded roads and didnt drown my engine :)

And i really like it, gives the engine nice tone when u open up the throttle. Sounds awsome when u floor it from 3000 to like 4500 RPM  :D

not bad , I have been looking at chrome intakes CAI . Also How far does the piping go. Just where the box is? that could not be ......Cold air.....or do you have a opening or funnel?

it reaches to the bottom of the engine but doesn't stick out from the bottom.   If you would remove (if you have) the left fog light, you would be (should be) able to see the filter.   

It is a CAI.

alright , I was just going by the pic on Ebay. It looks by that pic it only reaches the air box

they have different ones. some are longer like injen, some are not. make sure u get the one that extends all the way...or just funnel it.

i got a chrome intake CAI off ebay and i like it it was about 50 bucks including shipping

Well I am wanting to get one. For now I have riged one together using some tubing ( works good for now ) , but I am looking to get piping so It looks better. I will try and get pics tomarrow so you guys can get a laugh.

welcome to the DIY club!! I'll show you to your seat.........

Well it is good to be in the club :D

Just to make sure. you aren't using PVC are you?

No , not really . It is some stuff I got from a buddy of mine. He had it on his mustang before he got rid of it. Like PVC though........it is not metal

hahaha

one thing i can sence is: DUCTAPE!!!!  :D

hmm.....does ur engine look like under my sink? ;)

Hey it is not that bad , did not have time to get a pic though....just got home so I am going to wait til tomarrow. I'm off so til then.

j/k.....im still thinking of a way to temporarily cover up my hood vents until i can get it permanently fixed...w/o makin it look riced.

do you have a pic of what they look like cuz i might have an idea.

do i dare post such an obscene photo? sure, ill take a pic when i get back home. :D

oo la la. naked engine. lol

asap.. :P

so... where da hell is the picture!!!

havent had a chance...its snowed every day!!
not the best..not open hood...y'all can drool later..but for now:
ok here we go:
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h77/KgRomeo/hood.jpg)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h77/KgRomeo/rear-1.jpg)

oh you tease!! lol. at least when you put the scoops on there, they will be Fully F***ing Functional. 


THANK YOU!!

 ;D

lol, well, I was actually thinking of covering them up..or make highly unnoticeable vents...then additional vents viper style...sometimes I want the vents..but other times I dont want to look too intimidating. I need to cover up till summer though. then y'all can see the headers n ..u kno..the goodstuff ;D